Contents
1. Our letter
1.1. Quick summary
Our letter proposes a dialogue relating to public policies for autistic people in France. She emphasizes the lack of specific policies for accessibility for autistic people with disabilities. Four requests for information (A, B, C, D) are presented, implicitly suggesting a meeting (E) to discuss the proposal in more detail.
L’Autistan Diplomatic Organization aims to inform public authorities of different countries about the challenges and needs of autistic people exposed to disabling situations (PAESH). Its neutrality and ability to compare policies between countries make it a valuable asset.
The communication between the Embassy of Autistan and the French authorities met with difficulties, notably misunderstandings on the orientation towards Interministerial Delegation for Accessibility. Requests for specific information and comments on the focus on physical and digital accessibility are presented.
The importance of accessibility for people with autism is underlined, highlighting the obstacles attitudinaux, social and administrative. PECCAP is proposed as a basis for creating an accessible environment. The letter calls for a comprehensive accessibility policy to make everyday life equitably accessible, reducing exclusion and mistreatment.
The need for dialogue on various topics related to autism, with an emphasis on accessibility for PAESH, is expressed. The letter offers additional information, highlighting the difficulty of constructive dialogue without understanding the conditions necessary for accessibility. This letter concludes by asking the position of the Delegation on the dialogue proposal, emphasizing the importance of audio-video meetings to avoid misunderstandings, and expresses the hope of receiving constructive comments.
1.2. Summary
This summary provides an idea of the content of our letter to the Interministerial Delegation to the National Strategy for Neurodevelopmental Disorders, who deals with autism in France (good that “autism” or to be imperatively distinguished from “autism disorders”, as we explain ici).
1. Some useful information about our organization and our approach
2. Misunderstandings and difficulties relating to dialogue and accessibility
2.1. Predictability and prevention of obstacles
2.2. Apparent misunderstanding regarding our dialogue proposal
2.3. Possible confusion regarding our mention of the’ “accessibility”
2.4. The Interministerial Delegation for Accessibility
2.4.1. How to access it ?
2.4.2. Little visibility of relevance in the decree
2.4.3. Meaning of lack of competence emanating from the Ministerial Delegation for Accessibility
2.4.4. Lack of mention of accessibility for autistic people in a recent “table ronde” you CNCPH
2.4.5. Perplexity about taking into account the notion of accessibility for Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH) In France
3. Accessibility for Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH)
4. Dialogue on all other useful topics regarding autism
Annexe 1 : Quick presentation on Autistan, on the Diplomatic Organization of Autistan, and on the difficulties and needs of autistic people
Annexe 2 : Common barriers to communication and collaboration
Annexe 3 : Some useful elements for understanding the concept of’ “Accessibility for Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH)”, and its primordial necessity
1.3. Summary by ChatGPT
0. : The letter expresses gratitude for the response of the 25/10/2023 to a first contact.
She addresses a proposal for dialogue on public policies for autistic people in France, highlighting the provision of additional information via their concept.
A crucial example raised is the lack of specific policies and standards for accessibility for autistic people with disabilities.
The letter seeks to clarify the organization’s proposals, and submits four requests for information (A, B, C, D).
What's more, it implicitly suggests a meeting (E) to discuss more effectively.
1. : The Diplomatic Organization of Autistan stands out for its commitment not to interfere in external affairs or to make demands (other than information). Its main objective is to provide information to public authorities in different countries, aimed at improving their understanding of the challenges and real needs of Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH). The singularity of his approach, the possibility of comparing policies between different countries, and the neutrality of the organization are undeniable assets. Furthermore, thanks to these characteristics, the organization can also help resolve conflicts between government authorities and affected people's organizations. The information provided by the Autistan Diplomatic Organization has already been appreciated in various countries and should also be beneficial in France, as a useful addition to existing resources.
2. : This part expresses communication difficulties between the Embassy of Autistan and the French authorities, highlighting some key points :
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- Recognition of barriers relating to autism, with a suggestion for prevention.
- Clarification on the intention of the initial dialogue, highlighting a misunderstanding on the orientation towards the Interministerial Delegation for Accessibility.
- Regret for the not very explicit mention of the’ “accessibility” for autistic people in the previous email.
- Request for information on how to contact the Interministerial Delegation for Accessibility.
- Remarks on the recent decree, emphasizing a focus on physical and digital accessibility.
- Reminder of a previous consultation with another Ministerial Delegation for Accessibility and the responses obtained.
- Observations on the Lack of Discussion on Accessibility for Autistic People at a Recent Roundtable.
- Reflections on the recognition or understanding of the notion of accessibility for autistic people by public authorities in France.
3. : This part discusses the importance of accessibility for autistic people, emphasizing that obstacles are not just physical, but also socio-generated, such as communication and sensory problems. She calls for a comprehensive accessibility policy, encompassing social and administrative aspects, with binding standards. The PECCAP (Correct Consideration of Autism Everywhere) is mentioned as a basis for creating an accessible environment. The goal is to make daily life equitably accessible, thus reducing exclusion and mistreatment. The request is to know the position of the Delegation on this subject.
4. : This part expresses the need for dialogue on various topics related to autism, with a particular emphasis on accessibility for Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH). The author emphasizes that although accessibility is crucial to reducing the discomfort and suffering linked to poor consideration of autism, there are other important topics to discuss.
The author offers additional information and points of view, but highlights the difficulty of engaging in constructive dialogue in the absence of understanding of the conditions necessary for accessibility for autistic people. He mentions that this accessibility is often not considered, which can hinder the implementation of effective measures, even with the good will of the Delegation.
The text concludes by asking for the position of the Delegation on the dialogue proposal, highlighting the importance of audio-video meetings to avoid misunderstandings.
1.4.1. In French
1.4.2. in English
2. The Delegation’s response
2.1. Good reception email
“The sea. 20 dec. 2023 has 05:00, BRES Christophe <christophe.bres@pm.gouv.fr> wrote :
Bonjour,
I confirm receipt of your previous message and its attachments.
I will nevertheless take note of it when the time comes to provide you with an answer at that time..
(…)
Wishing you a happy holiday season,
Yours sincerely,
Christophe BRES”
3. Our reminders
3.1. Our email from 20/12/2024
Date: mer. 20 dec. 2023 has 22:48
Subject: Re: Dialogue with public authorities in charge of Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH) In France
To: BRES Christophe <christophe.bres@pm.gouv.fr>
The Ambassador of Autistan for France,
3.2. Our email from 13/01/2024
Subject: Dialogue with public authorities in charge of Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH) In France
To: BRES Christophe <christophe.bres@pm.gouv.fr>
Mr. Chief of Staff
– Our letter represents a lot of work, and especially, the subject is of the utmost importance for the well-being of autistic people in France.
– It was published here on 18/12/2023 : https://autistan.fr/
– The kind response from your Delegation (that is to say of the French State) will be published here : https://autistan.fr/
Autistan Diplomatic Organization
3.3. Our email from 23/03/2024
Subject: New attempt – Re: Dialogue with public authorities in charge of Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH) In France
To: BRES Christophe <christophe.bres@pm.gouv.fr>
Communication between non-autistic people and autistic people is generally difficult, and perhaps it is difficult for you to respond to our letter.
We would therefore simply like to recall the substance, in case it helps to reduce certain obstacles.
Our letter aims to offer you a useful dialogue about public policies relating to autism, in particular about the little-known subject of ACCESSIBILITY necessary to reduce situations that handicap autistic people.
We would like to know if your Delegation could accept this perspective of dialogue (which can be done through written and vocal exchanges).
We would like to remind you of our questions (in our opinion quite simple) A, C and D :
Misunderstandings and difficulties relating to dialogue and
to accessibility
A → You may want to confirm or deny, that's to say
help us better understand to what extent your
Delegation is concerned – or not – by this theme of
accessibility for autistic people with disabilities, or
if it is entirely managed by other entities
government agencies responsible for accessibility (which – in addition – is not
not easy for us, because there are at least three).
Accessibility for Autistic People
Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH)
As a reminder : “Disabilities, impediments and obstacles concerning autism are – obviously – in
relationship with the characteristics of autism and “autism disorders”, what
correspond :
– To questions of “communication and interpersonal relationships” (which has nothing to
see with the “physique”, and very little with digital) ;
– To questions of “sensoriality” (which could sometimes be improved by better
conception “physique”, but the responses from the Delegations theoretically concerned do not
do not seem encouraging on this subject).”
C → It would be really useful to learn the position of
your Delegation on this subject.
Could you make it known?, SVP ?
Dialogue on all other useful topics in
autism matter
D → Would you be kind enough to let us know the
position of your Delegation regarding our proposal
dialogue (in particular to offer you “parts of
puzzle” useful), now that you have been able to take
knowledge of these clarifications, SVP ?
We think that it would be appreciable and useful if the Government of France, through you, indicates possible interest in the concerns and information brought by autistic people as part of their attempts at organization and advocacy, especially at the international level.
Your answer (hoped) sera(it) therefore a “puzzle piece” helpful located here : https://autistan.fr/dialogue-
In this hope, please believe, Mr. Chief of Staff, with the assurance of our respectful consideration.
For the Diplomatic Organization of Autistan,
Alistair R.
3.4. Our email from 05/05/2024
Subject: Interrogation relative au silence – Dialogue with public authorities in charge of Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH) In France
To: BRES Christophe <christophe.bres@pm.gouv.fr>
Cc: <etienne.pot@pm.gouv.fr>
If your Delegation considers that it does not need such information, or if she finds that our proposals or approaches do not suit her, it would be really useful – and elegant – to let us know, in order to close (with great regret) this subject.
Autistan Diplomatic Organization
3.6. Our email from 06/05/2024
Of : Embassy of Autistan FR <fr@autistan.org>
Date: lun. 6 May 2024 has 00:05
Subject: Re: Interrogation relative au silence – Dialogue with public authorities in charge of Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH) In France
To: BRES Christophe <christophe.bres@pm.gouv.fr>
Cc: <etienne.pot@pm.gouv.fr>
P.S. Our four kind reminders, inexplicably unsuccessful : https://autistan.fr/
3.7. Our email from 23/06/2024
Subject: Re: Interrogation relative au silence – Dialogue with public authorities in charge of Autistic People Exposed to Disabling Situations (PAESH) In France
To: BRES Christophe <christophe.bres@pm.gouv.fr>
Cc: <etienne.pot@pm.gouv.fr>